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Considerations about ye state rates of the coyns

Cross Dollars Wt .
|Old| Sevil pieces of 8.wo 1dwt.Wt17. 12value54.d
New Sevil p. of 8wo 112Wt14.43∟11
Ecuwo 117. 1254
|Old| Rix Dollerswo 1018. {}6|9|54∟4
Crusado of Portugg>lwo 211. 434∟31
Ducaton of Flandersbe. 41220. 2266∟15
Cross Doller {illeg}wo 1218. 152∟91
Peru|ill|ar piece of 8be 217. 16
Mexico p. of 8wo. 117. 16|2|.
Peru p|iece| of 8wo. 151217. 12


Sevil, Mexico, & Peru & Pillar pieces of eight old Plate, {illeg} & French Ecus, or Silver Lewises {illeg} weighing 1712dw - 4.s 6d. - 6d|s|     NB Pillar pieces are 1d better, Perus|e| 12d worse. Pieces of eight new Plate new plate weighing 14dw-3s. 7d.       4. 935



Sevil & Mexico pieces of eight old plate weighing 17dwt 12gr4.s 6d
     Mexico ditto4 6
Pillar pieces of eight weighing 17dwt 14|6|gr4s 714
Mexico\Peru/ pieces of eight \of due allay/ weighing 17dwt 14|2|gr. {illeg}4. 5 4. 512
The halfs & quarter pieces \of eight in proportion/ & the pieces
The The {sic} french Lewis weighing 17. 124.

And we further lay before your Lordp that the Pillar pieces of 8 ared better then the Sevil & Mexico by about 1d 1d{illeg} or\or/ 1d ob per piece, but considering that in ye Colony of Massachusets Bay by vertue of an Act passed there they {illeg}\& confirmed/ by the Royal authorty {sic}, wch cannot be altered but by an Act to be passed by\in/ the same manner, the Pillar pieces {illeg} pass\are current/ at the same rate with the Sevil & Mexico pieces, the same

And we further lay before yoer Lordps that pieces of eight of Sevil & Mexico of just weight & allay are worth 4s 6d per piece intrinsic value & that Pillar pieces \of eight/ are finer silver & on that account better by by three farthings {illeg}\per/ piece then more valu worth then the others of the same weight by ab three farthing in the piece: but considering that by vertue of an Act passed in Massachusets Bay|that the differenc {sic} is but small & that all forreign coyns are \already/ rated for the Colony of ye Massachusets Bay by vertue of an Act there passed| & confirmed by the Royal authority, wch cannot be altered but by a newl Act to be \all forreign coynes are rated for th/passed by\in/ the same manner \as their Lops mention/, the Pillar pieces are\of eight are there/ current at the same rate with the Sevil & Mexico pieces of eight: we are humbly of opinion that if her Majty shall think fit to issue out her Royal Proclamation in the manner\to the purpose/ proposed by their Ldps {illeg} for Trade\the coyn & be rated {illeg}/ {illeg} it0may be done \for all her Majtys Plantations in Am./ after the \same/ manner proposed by their|m| without \as in this Act/ \without/ making a difference between the Pillar pieces & the other pieces of eight. But con Which And we are humbly of opinion being allowed we are humbly of opinion

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We do not think it {illeg} the rate of forreign coyns any further then their Lordps have done, but if the value of more\least the just intrinsic value of/ coyns \coyns of them/|of any coyns of just weight & allay| should be desired\wanted/, we have subjoyned\set them down in/ the following Table|.| of



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Sevil Pia|e|ces of eight ild plateWt17dwt 12gvalue4s. 6
Sevil pieces of eight new plateWt14.3. 714
Mexico pieces of eight17. 124. 6
Pillar pieces of eight17. 1{illeg} 124. 8|6|34
Peru pieces of 8 old plate17. 124. 512
Cross Dollers18.4. 434
Ducatons of Flanders20. 215. 6
Ecus of France or Silver Lewises17. 124. 6
Crusados of Portugal11. 42. 10
R{illeg} Dollers/Three Guilder pieces of Holland\\Three Guilder Piece of Holland/20. 75. 214

The halfs|,| & quarters \& other pieces parts/ in proportion of their weight according to their denominations. And \In//And\ light pieces an abatement in proportion of to their ward of weight

Three Guilder piece of Holland \or piece of 10 Schellings or 60 Styvers/20. 75. 214


Considering that ye Coyn most of her Majts Plantations \in Am./ have already raised their coyns & that Pieces of 8 are raised \from 4. 6 to 6 in New England/ by a law ratified by ye Royal authority I hu humbly conceive it adviseable to limit the raising it further by such a her Majtys issuing such a Proclamation as the Lds Commers for Trade propose.



Were the

And considering that the difficulties of reducing the|m| coyns to ye Same rate as in England [ by reason that they are already raised in most of ye Plantations almost |all| the|o| Dominions \her Majts Plantations//Dominions\ & that in New England these are raised by an law established by royal authority |in the colony of Massachusets \Bay/ cannot be lowered by Act without a new repealing an Act established by the Royal authority| : we humbly conceive the rate proposed \& limited/ by their Lordps to be \a/ convenient \limit for putting a stop to the raising of forreign coyns at pleasure beyond it/, namely that pieces of eight or [Sevil Mexico & Pillar Pieces of 8 do\should/ not pass for more then six shillings] forreign \such coyns/ do not pass at a higher rate there that already appointed in the Colony of Massachusets Bay by an Act establi established by ye

The Pillar Pieces are finer then the Sevil & Mexico & on that acct better \more worth/ by about three farthings in ye piece, beside some advantage in the weight, but but considering that the difference is but small Royal authority so established by by that Act\in any of those her Majts dominions then/ they do at present in the said Colony\New England/ by vertue of ye Said Act

And con{illeg}|s|idering the difficulties of reducing them to the same rate as in England by reason that they are already raised in almost all those her Dominions & \that/ in the colony of Massachusets bay cannot be lowered\they/ are raised by an Act established by the royal authority \wch cannot be repealed by by the a like Act/: we humbly conceive that that|eir| Lops have fit by proposed a limit their Lordps have fitly proposed the rate at wch \by ye Sd Act/ they pass b in that Colony|,| by ye said Act. as a limit above wch s|t|hey shall not be pass in any other Colony.

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May it pl. yoer Lop

According to yoer Lops - - - - Dominions in America.

And for ye rate proposed by their Lops, namely that Sevil Mexico & Pillar pieces of 8 do not pass for more then six shillings a piece we rely up{on} their Lops judgment it depending on ye laws & c{illeg}|u|stomes of ye Plantations & circumstances of Trade.



The \intrinsic/ value of those coyns in proportion to English specie money is {illeg}\set down/ in ye following\annexed/ Table but considering that the rate at wch they are \now/ taken in England is uncertain\at higher rates at ye discretion of the Merchant/, that they are \already already/ raised in almost all her Majts Dominions in America \& cannot be lowered without danger of disgust/ & that the in ye Colony of Massachusets Bay they are raised by an Act confired by Royall authoriry wch cannot be repealed by by another Act to be passed after the same manner we are humbly of opinion that the most pactible \& safest & convenient/ way of bringing them to the same rate in all those Dominions is to put a limit above wch they shall not be rated\pass/ & \{illeg}\we/ conceive/ that the rate at wch they {sic}\by the said Act V Act above mentioned they now/ \now/ pass in ye said Bay by is a fit\fit/ limit to be appointed by her Majesties Proclam [fit [to be appointed by her Majesties Proclamation.

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May it please yoer Lordp



According to yoer Lordps order of Reference \signified to us by Mr Lowndes his {illeg}/ of Dec 2d we ha{ve} considered the matter conteined in the Representation from the Lds Commers for ye Council of Trade for setling the rates {illeg} of Forreign coyns in the Majts Plantations in America & \humbly/ agree wth their Lordps that the in their opinion that the |{t}aking a liberty of| altering the rates of the coynes {illeg} at pleasure\at ye discretion of those governments/ does\must/ incourage an indirect practises of drawing the money from one Plantation to another to the undermining of each others trade & that the proper way to remedy this mischief is to reduce all forreign coynes to one & the same rate in all her Majesties Plantations Dominions in America.

We have therefore supp|bj|oined a Table to the just value of such\the principla/ forreign coyns that upon acced in \in proportion to current coyns in money current in/ English specie money, that upo whereby it may be known upon that upon stating\Egland in English money, that by her Majesties appointing by appointing/ the rate at wch any one species shall pass it may be known at what rate any all the other species are to pass. But \appointing that rate it self/ in asser the assign the rate to state that rate \at wch the mo to be appointed/ depends upon \such/ considerations \circumstances/ of Trade & laws & customes of ye Plantations of wch the Lords Comms of Trade wch have no certain knowledge wch do not lye before us.\of wch we are not informed/ But the rate to be appointed depends upon laws & customes of the Plantations wch we are not acquainted All wch wth    All wch &c



The value of forreign coyns according to their weight

Sevil, Mexico

And since     {illeg}Their L And w

The Lordps pro

Pieces of 8 are worth of

For this end their Lordps propos

The rate proposed by their Lordps is that pieces of eight do not goe in any part of\pass in there/ for more then six shillings, wch is 1s 6d above their intrinsic value\just value in England/, & for this limitation their Lops give this reason, that in wch we must su we must rely upon their Lops judgmt not having it depending on ye laws & customes of the Plantations & circumstances of Trade.

The Pillar Pieces of 8 are of finer silver then ye rest & on that acct more valuable then ye rest \those of Sevil & Mexico/ of the same weight by three farthing in the piece by about three farthings in ye piece besides some advantage in thei{illeg}|r| weight. But considering {illeg} other pieces of 8 that the difference is but small & that it is neglected in the Act passed in the Province of Collony of |ye| Massachusets Bay wch \wch their Lops mention/ & conformed by Royall authority wch appoints the rate of forreign coyns for that Prov Province\wch appoints ye rate of forreign coyns for that Province/ we are humbly of opinion that it may be neglected in vt|ra|ting the coyn for ye rest of ye Plantations so that all the Plantations in America may be upon the same {illeg} & that & we\Colonies, as in their Lordps Representation/ that Act being made ye rule for rating the coyn for all her /Mats\ Plantations in America, because \already/ ratified by ye Royal authority.

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