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May it pl. yor Lp

In obedience to yor Lops Order of Ref. signified to us {by M}r Lowndes {his Letter} of {illeg} Iuly     we have considered the Petition of Coll Pars{on}s & Mr Croker {and} \{for} to succeed Mr Ha/ discoursed the Petitioners & also spoke wth Mr Rose & we find that \Coll. Parsons doth not grave {himsel} himself but imployes {illeg} good workmen {&} {has} the best workmen {and} has a good fansy & judgment in these matters & that Mr Rosse/ M{r Rosse} {sic} desires at {illeg}|o|nly to succeed Mr Harris in his place of Graver of Seales for\to/ he{r} Mty & by a seale wch he has graved for the Dutchy of Lanc{illeg}|a|ster he seems to be a good workman & well enough\for seales & sufficiently/ qualified for that place. But as for the place of Graver to ye Mint \Mr Harris'es other places of Graver for the money & for Medals/ we humbly lay before ye Lordp that the Master of the Mint & upon {illeg}|c|onsidering what in{illeg}|c|onveniency the Mind {had}\did|had|/ lately suffered|ed| & might\may/ again suffer by taking in Cutters of seales who into the chief Gravers place, {he} did upon his succeeding Mr Neale put a clause into the Indenture \then/ made between the Crown & himself, whereby the Gravers salary of 325li per annu upon ye next voydance fo the place should cease in order to a new establishmt \for the {illeg} advantage of the Coynage/ For Mr Harris being a cutter of Seales & not skilled in that sort of graving wch is proper for the money, i{m} imployed \that Mr {Roetier} Iames Rotier & afterwards/ Mr Croker to do all the|a||t| work for an allowance of 175li per an & retained ye remaining 150li p{r}|e|r an to himself wthout doing any thing for it, & that Mr Croker not being bred up in the service of ye Mint was did not understand {illeg} it when he first succeed|ed| Mr Roetier by was necessitated for {illeg}two|r| {sic}\three/ or three\four/ years to copy after Mr Roetiers work, till by & \tho/ now by long practise \he/ works very well, & we are humbly of opinion that he is the fittest person to be first graver of the Mint. & It is humbly proposed therefore that no new Gravers for the security of |the| coyne against counterfeiting that there should be a set of Gravers constantly brought up in the Mint who having once attained to perfection in the|ir| way may {to} \keep {such} Art amongst themselves &/ propagate it to the their Appren{illeg}|t|ices or Probationers & be succeeded by them & that no new Graver be taken into the Mint unless as an Apprentice or Probationer. For wch end we humb{y}|l|y propose that Mr Croker be made the first Graver of the Mint wth such an augmentation of his salary \as yor Lordp shall think fit/ for maintaining himself & a servant to file & polish the Dyes, & that Mr Bull who is now a Probationer \& works very well/ be made the second Graver wth {illeg} wth {such} a salary to be \also/ appointed by yor Lordp, & a {illeg} new Probationer taken into the third place so soon as fit person shall be met with.

And as for Mr Harris his other place of Graver of Medals to her Majty we are humbly of opinion that the Gravers of the Mint \for ye time being/ are \the/ fittest \persons/ to execute it, & that whenever the Master of the Mint receives any directions about Medals {illeg} making of Coronation Medals or others, they be obliged to assist him according & have no power \without his leave/ to {illeg} use any of the Presses without his leave \or {Pr} Mills for coynage/ /in the Mint or to\ {doe} work upon Medals in any of th{i}|e| rooms without his leave\wch/ belongi|s|ng to his Office for ye coynage of money.

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