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The Informacon of Katherine Carter the wife of Thomas Carter now prisoner in newgate 21th. February 169$\frac{8}{9}$

She saith yt. abot. Iune or Iuly last she had of William Chaloner now prisoner in Newgate severall parcells of Counterfeit mill'd Shills which seemed to be made of pewter vizt. at one time 12s. at another time 2s. at another time 5s and at other times other sum̄s ammounting in all to about 20 or 30 such Shills. and that he told her that he made them himself and that before he made them he told the Informt. that he was to make an 100 in Dutch money for a Merchant and for yt. purpose he borowed a room of the Informt. to work in and desired the Informt. to get some Charcoale for him and accordingly the Informt. took in half a bushell of Charcoale for him and he made a mould of a certain past dryed and hardened like potters Ware to cast <57r> a new sort of Dutch money in and the Informt. saw the said mould in the said room in Chaloner's custody (who was then in the room) and saw him cast a piece of Dutch money in the said mould and finish that and others which he had cast before and the Depont. received two of them from him and have them to a Gentleman to shew them to the Mercht. for a specimen And the said Chaloner yn told the Informt. that he intended to make {smy} another mould for shills. and abot. a week after gave the Informt. ye Shills above menconed or some of them and said that they were dangerous or else he could make them as well as they were in the Tower

And the Depont. saith further that the said Chaloner abot. the same time began to grave the plate for mault Tickets and the Depont gave a shilling to buy a piece of leather to make a sand bagg and when he had scratcht the plate with flourishes and lettrs. he left it in the Deponts. custody for 3 or 4 daies and then workt upon it againe and made the letters and flourishes smooth and gave it again to the Depont. to keep for him and the lines lookt black as if some papers had been printed off and after the Depont. had kept the plate 3 or 4 daies she removed to another Lodging and deliverd. the said Plate to the said Chaloner

The Deponent saith further that for the 12s. above menconed she gave the said Chaloner 8s. of good money And that between 7 and 8 years ago she had two or 3 Counterfeit French pistolls of the said William Chaloner to put off and gave him 14s. a piece for tham and abot. 6 or 7 years ago she had severall parcells of Counterfeit Gineas {sic} of the said William Chandler and gave him for them sometimes 12s. a piece sometimes less they being not so well done as the pistolls and that she hath heard the said Chaloner speak of his making the said Gineas {sic} and said that he made them at his brother Io Gavener's house and that the said Chaloner once left in the Deponents custody the Head Ginea {sic} Dye with which he coyned the Gineas {sic} and Chaloner commending the Dye said said {sic} that it was worth 500, and being askt who graved it said that Taylor the Engraver had in hand but could not do it effectually and so he (Chaloner) was fain to finish it himself Afterwards the said Chaloner calling for the said Dye or stamp said yt he was to let one Nicholas Salber have some Gineas {sic} to carry down into the Countrey and the Depont. saith further that Mary Ball her maid servant saw the said Challoner the summ̄ give her his Deponent two of the pewter shillings above menconed + Soon after the Deponent gave one of them to said Maid servant to charge And the Depont. believes that the said Mary Ball hath had of her 8 or 9 of those shillings to put off And the Depont. saith further that she hath reced of the said Chaloner severall parcells of Counterfeit to put off and continued to receive such monies off him till the May before the hamered monies began to be cu|a|lled in yt is bill last May was 2 {yeares}

the mark of Kath Carter

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[2] Iurat coram Is Newton