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<title>The smith's house has probably belonged to the Ordnance since the latter's creation</title>
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<extent><hi rend="italic">c.</hi> <num n="word_count" value="1225">1,225</num> words</extent>
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<note type="metadataLine">13 February 1699 [= 1700], <hi rend="italic">c.</hi> 1,225 words.</note>

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<p>Full letter in PRO, T1/67, no.34.</p>
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<p>Numerous extracts from old decrees and statements by Ordnance employees in support of this contention.</p>
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    <p rend="right" xml:id="par1"><hi rend="largest">E</hi><hi rend="large">xtract</hi> of a Letter form the Board of Ordnance <lb xml:id="l1"/>dated the 13<hi rend="superscript">th</hi>. of February 1699 to the <choice><abbr>R<hi rend="superscript">t</hi></abbr><expan>Right</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Hon<hi rend="superscript"><hi rend="underline">ble</hi></hi></abbr><expan>Honourable</expan></choice> <lb xml:id="l2"/>the Lords Co<choice><orig><hi rend="overline">mi</hi></orig><reg>mmi</reg></choice>ssioners of his Majesty's</p>
    <p rend="center" xml:id="par2">Treasury</p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par3"><hi rend="large">M</hi>y Lords</p>
    
    <p rend="indent20" xml:id="par4"><hi rend="large">As</hi> to our Title to the Master Smiths <lb xml:id="l3"/>house in the <hi rend="large">Mint</hi>m it is very probable it has belonged to the <lb xml:id="l4"/>Ordnance ever since 'twas an Office, But the annext Papers <lb xml:id="l5"/>will fully satisfy <del type="strikethrough">y<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Lord<hi rend="superscript">ps</hi></del> of above 120 years uninterrupted possession, <lb xml:id="l6"/>and that the Office have from time to time repair'd it; and <lb xml:id="l7"/>We can't imagine the Officers of the Mint can give <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>your</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Lord<hi rend="superscript">ps</hi></abbr><expan>Lordships</expan></choice> any <lb xml:id="l8"/>tollerable reasons that 'tis at this time for his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="superscript">t<hi rend="underline">yes</hi></hi></abbr><expan>Majestys</expan></choice> service <lb xml:id="l9"/>for them to have the Smiths house &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> <choice><orig>—</orig><reg/></choice> when they did so <lb xml:id="l10"/>successfully carry on the last vast Coinage without them, &amp; in all probability <lb xml:id="l11"/>there never can be the like occasion for Room &amp; Conveniency, and We will <lb xml:id="l12"/>Venture to say, they have Twice as much Room as ever they can <lb xml:id="l13"/>make use of for <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice><choice><orig>—</orig><reg>.</reg></choice> And it is very well known, that several <lb xml:id="l14"/>of their Houses stand Empty &amp; others rented by persons no ways concern'd <lb xml:id="l15"/>with them, and We are informed one of the Master Smiths of <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Mint <lb xml:id="l16"/>has now a House &amp; several Forges sufficient for all their busine<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">s</add>s. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="2"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent15" xml:id="par5"><hi rend="larger">T</hi>ouching the Master Smiths house <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par6"><hi rend="larger">I</hi>t appears by an Old Book remaining in the Office <lb xml:id="l17"/>of Ordnance. That an Estimate was made the <lb xml:id="l18"/>14<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> of Feb<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">ry</hi></hi> 1577 by the Officers of the same for <lb xml:id="l19"/>several Repairs necessary to be done to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smiths house, <lb xml:id="l20"/>with an <choice><abbr>Acc<hi rend="superscript"><hi rend="underline">t</hi></hi></abbr><expan>Account</expan></choice> of the Men &amp; Materials that were to be <lb xml:id="l21"/>Employ'd in that service. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par7"><hi rend="larger">I</hi> the 9<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> Year of Queen Eliz<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">a</hi></hi> dated the 3<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> of May <lb xml:id="l22"/>A Grant was made to William &amp; Martin Hopkins to <lb xml:id="l23"/>be <choice><abbr>M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi>.</abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smiths to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Toer, the said Martin dyed the <lb xml:id="l24"/>16<hi rend="superscript"><hi rend="underline">th</hi></hi> of Iuly 1606, to Enjoy the Fee of 8<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> <choice><orig>ꝑ</orig><reg>per</reg></choice> Diem, <foreign xml:lang="lat">ac <lb xml:id="l25"/>Mansio<hi rend="overline">n</hi> Domibus proficuis</foreign> &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi></p>
    
    <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">In</fw><pb xml:id="p429v" n="429v"/>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par8"><hi rend="larger">I</hi>n the 43<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> of Queen Eliz<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">a</hi></hi> 18<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> of Iune, Letters Pattents <lb xml:id="l26"/>were granted to Thomas Pdasso for <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> place of <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smith <lb xml:id="l27"/>of all the Iron Works within <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tower of London, to <lb xml:id="l28"/>hold the same during his Life at 8<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> <choice><orig>ꝑ</orig><reg>per</reg></choice> Diem, <foreign xml:lang="lat">ac <lb xml:id="l29"/>Mansio<hi rend="overline">n</hi> Domibus proficuis</foreign> &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par9">King <choice><orig>I</orig><reg>J</reg></choice>ames by his Lett<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">r</hi></hi> Patents dated <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> 25<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> of Nov<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">r</hi></hi> <lb xml:id="l30"/>in the 21<hi rend="superscript">st</hi>: year of his Reign, grants to Lewis Tayte <lb xml:id="l31"/>the said place of <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smith of all the Iron works <lb xml:id="l32"/>within <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tower of London, to hold <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> same during <lb xml:id="l33"/>his life<foreign xml:lang="lat">ac Mansio<hi rend="overline">n</hi> Domibus proficuis, Emolumentis</foreign> &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi>. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par10">King Charles the 1<hi rend="superscript">st</hi> By his Letters Patents <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> 17<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> of Aug<hi rend="superscript">t</hi>: <lb xml:id="l34"/>in the 16<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> Year of his Reign, grants to Tho<hi rend="superscript">s</hi>: Hodgskins <lb xml:id="l35"/>the said place of Master Smith within <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tower of London <lb xml:id="l36"/>at the Fee of 8<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> <choice><orig>ꝑ</orig><reg>per</reg></choice> Diem, <foreign xml:lang="lat">ac Mansio<hi rend="overline">n</hi> Domibus proficuis <lb xml:id="l37"/>Emolumentis</foreign> &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par11">M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> William Smith aged 58 years Clerk to Thomas Hodgskinns <lb xml:id="l38"/><choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smith to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tower in the years 1665 &amp; 1666, saith, <lb xml:id="l39"/>that M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Hodgskinns lived &amp; inhabited in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Mint <lb xml:id="l40"/>wherein M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Silvester lately dwelt, as also he served M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> <lb xml:id="l41"/>Silvester in the like capacity, &amp; during his continuance <lb xml:id="l42"/>there He Iustifyes, the said House was always reputed <lb xml:id="l43"/>and Esteem'd to be belonging to the Office of Ordnance <lb xml:id="l44"/>and was always repaired upon any defects or wants of <lb xml:id="l45"/>Reparation by <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> said Office, &amp; that M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Hodgskinns own'd <lb xml:id="l46"/>his tenure from no other but the said Office, &amp; that he <lb xml:id="l47"/>had possession given him by the Officers of the same, where <lb xml:id="l48"/>first he took possession of <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> said Place. He further saith <lb xml:id="l49"/>that in the year 52 being then about 11 years old, he knew <lb xml:id="l50"/>that <hi rend="overline">M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></hi> Hodgskinns then Lived in the said House &amp; workt to <lb xml:id="l51"/>the Office of Ordnance.</p>
    
    <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">Thomas</fw><pb xml:id="p430r" n="430r"/><fw type="pag" place="bottomLeft">430</fw>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par12"><hi rend="large">Thomas Shillingford</hi> Master of the Office Barge hath belonged <lb xml:id="l52"/>to the Office ever since the years 1666 or 1667, &amp; saith that some <lb xml:id="l53"/>time since then he remembers that Prince Rupert &amp; several <lb xml:id="l54"/>Lords of the Council or Nobility came down to the Tower <lb xml:id="l55"/>to View the Smiths house in the Mint, as he conceives <lb xml:id="l56"/>upon a dispute for <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> same, between the Officers of the <lb xml:id="l57"/>Ordnance &amp; the Mint, &amp; remembers that M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Ball the <lb xml:id="l58"/>Messenger &amp; M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Merry a Labourer then &amp; for above 20 years <lb xml:id="l59"/>before in the Ordnance were called for &amp; Examined about <lb xml:id="l60"/>what they know thereof, who declared that it had been <lb xml:id="l61"/>for their time &amp; before belonging to the Office of the <lb xml:id="l62"/>Ordnance &amp; that he the said Merry had been <lb xml:id="l63"/>concern'd in weighing Double headed ha<choice><orig><hi rend="overline">me</hi></orig><reg>mme</reg></choice>red short, Crows <lb xml:id="l64"/>of Iron &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> &amp; fetching them &amp; other stores into <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> <lb xml:id="l65"/>stores of the Ordnance, &amp; that it was always looked <lb xml:id="l66"/>on to belong to the Office of Ordnance. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p xml:id="par13"><hi rend="large">M</hi>atthew Bateman late Master Wheelwright to the Office <lb xml:id="l67"/>of Ordnance saith, that the Night before my Lord <lb xml:id="l68"/>Strafford was beheaded which was abou<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">t</add> 60 years ago <lb xml:id="l69"/>he lay in M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Hodgskinns's house in the Mint, who <lb xml:id="l70"/>then &amp; several years before to he remembrance was <lb xml:id="l71"/>Master Smith to the Office of Ordnance &amp; Lived in the <lb xml:id="l72"/>same house that M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Silvesters his success<choice><orig><hi rend="superscript">r</hi></orig><reg>or</reg></choice> did till <lb xml:id="l73"/>few years since, which was always looked on to <lb xml:id="l74"/>belong to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> said Office &amp; claim'd, as he heard of <lb xml:id="l75"/>by the Office of the Mint or any other. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p xml:id="par14"><hi rend="large">R</hi>obert Bennet <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Purvey<choice><orig><hi rend="superscript">r</hi></orig><reg>or</reg></choice> for sea service to this <lb xml:id="l76"/>Office aged about 70 years saith, that for abou<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">t</add> 40 years <lb xml:id="l77"/>he hath known that the Smith to the Office of Ordnance <lb xml:id="l78"/>Lived in the House in the Mint in the Tower, <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> is now <lb xml:id="l79"/>claim'd by the Officers of the Mint, and that it was <lb xml:id="l80"/>always Esteem'd to belong to the Office of Ordnance.</p>
    
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    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par15"><hi rend="larger">E</hi><hi rend="large">dw<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> Snapes</hi> now Messenger but before Labourer <lb xml:id="l81"/>in Ordinary to this Office from the year 1665 or 1666 <lb xml:id="l82"/>saith, that when he was a Labourer he was co<choice><orig><hi rend="overline">m</hi></orig><reg>mm</reg></choice>anded <lb xml:id="l83"/>to go to the Smiths of this Office in the Mint in <lb xml:id="l84"/>Tower to assist in Proving &amp; weighing Double headed <lb xml:id="l85"/>ha<choice><orig><hi rend="overline">me</hi></orig><reg>mme</reg></choice>r'd Shott, Crows of Iron &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> for his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="underline"><hi rend="superscript">tys</hi></hi></abbr><expan>Majestys</expan></choice> service, <lb xml:id="l86"/>and this He did as well in the shine of M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Hodgskinns <lb xml:id="l87"/>as M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Silvesters late <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Smith to this Office, and <lb xml:id="l88"/>that the <del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">H</add>ouse, shop &amp;c<hi rend="superscript">a</hi> were always Esteem'd to belong <lb xml:id="l89"/>to the Office of Ordnance. <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p xml:id="par16"><hi rend="large">R</hi>obert Fitch aged about 50 Years Master Bricklayer to <lb xml:id="l90"/>this Office, saith that ever since the year 1671 he knew <lb xml:id="l91"/>the Smith of this Office dwelt in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> house in the Mint <lb xml:id="l92"/>now claim'd by the Mint, &amp; did several works for <lb xml:id="l93"/>repairing <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> House &amp; Ships thereunto for <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> service of <lb xml:id="l94"/>the Office of Ordnance, who paid him for the same <lb xml:id="l95"/>and that for any thing he knew, it was always <lb xml:id="l96"/>Esteem'd the Right &amp; Property of the Office of Ordnance. <lb xml:id="l97"/>He saith also that he remembers about 20 or 21 years <lb xml:id="l98"/>since, that Prince Rupert, the Earl of Shaftsbury <lb xml:id="l99"/>and several other Lords of the Council or Persons of Quallity <lb xml:id="l100"/>came to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tower to View whether another place in the <lb xml:id="l101"/>Tower might be found for the Smith of this Office as <lb xml:id="l102"/>convenient, as that upon occasion of Esq<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Slingsby <lb xml:id="l103"/>who was the <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Master</expan></choice> Worker of the Mint &amp; wou'd have <lb xml:id="l104"/>the Smith of this Office out from thence<choice><orig>_ w</orig><reg>. W</reg></choice>hat <lb xml:id="l105"/>Resolution was taken he knows not, But the Smith <lb xml:id="l106"/>of this Office still continued there without any <lb xml:id="l107"/>distu<del type="over"><unclear reason="del" cert="low">b</unclear></del><add place="over" indicator="no">r</add>bance</p>
    
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