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<title>'To proue that a quantity of Tin cannot be had in y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi> East Indies'</title>
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<note type="metadataLine">1705, <hi rend="italic">c.</hi> 795 words.</note>

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<p>Argues that if the Dutch had a sufficient surplus of tin in the East Indies to undercut British trade, they would already be doing so.</p>
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    <pb xml:id="p519r" n="519r"/><fw type="pag" place="bottomLeft">519</fw><fw type="pag" place="bottomRight">513</fw>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par1"><hi rend="large">To pro<choice><orig>u</orig><reg>v</reg></choice>e that a quantity of Tin cannot be had in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> East Indies</hi> <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
    
    <p xml:id="par2"><hi rend="large">The Dutch</hi> Merchants and Pewterers, and <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> English <choice><abbr>Merch<hi rend="superscript">ts</hi>.</abbr><expan>Merchants</expan></choice> &amp; <lb xml:id="l1"/>pewterers stood it out <choice><abbr>ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi>.</abbr><expan>against</expan></choice> the Queens farm nere two Yeare in <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi>:</abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> time <lb xml:id="l2"/>there was little or no Tin sold, and the designe was very playn, that it <lb xml:id="l3"/>was to put her <choice><abbr>Ma<hi rend="superscript">tie</hi>:</abbr><expan>Majestie</expan></choice> out of Conceit with what she had done, &amp; to cast <lb xml:id="l4"/>off the Farm, and she had very likely answered their Expectation if my <lb xml:id="l5"/>Lord Treasurer could have gotten out handsomly without losse. <lb xml:id="l6"/>In this time of their standing it out it is not so much as to be quested <lb xml:id="l7"/>but that they ordered for all the Tin which could be had in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Ear <lb xml:id="l8"/>Indies, or any other where, and one would think they should have <lb xml:id="l9"/>Returnes in 2 Year, I have the Invoys of 12 of their East India ships <lb xml:id="l10"/>two year after, and they did not bring 20 Tun, neither could they bring <lb xml:id="l11"/>50 Tun in 3 or 4 Year, and it must of necessity be granted that <lb xml:id="l12"/>seeing they did not, they could not, for if Tin could be had in any part <lb xml:id="l13"/>of the world it would be procured in that time, for they brought Tin <lb xml:id="l14"/>att great losse only to keep downe the price of our Tin.</p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par3">All the Tin in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Indies is bought up &amp; exported, &amp; Consumed from year <lb xml:id="l15"/>to year and the places where it is vended at t<del type="over"><unclear reason="del">he</unclear></del><add place="over" indicator="no">his</add> time will want it, if <lb xml:id="l16"/>the Dutch bring it home, for there are not Mountaines of Tin in the <lb xml:id="l17"/>East Indies, but it must be searched for and dugg out off <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> earth as in <lb xml:id="l18"/>Cornwall, for either it is dugge out off the earth, or it is not, but <lb xml:id="l19"/>remaines in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> bowells off <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> earth, if it be dugge out &amp; remaines their to <lb xml:id="l20"/>be sold, why doe not <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Dutch or others buy it, and vent it abroad in <lb xml:id="l21"/>the world, they may have it att any price, if it be there &amp; no body buys <lb xml:id="l22"/>it, for people must sell their goods as it will <choice><sic>yeild</sic><corr>yield</corr></choice>, but if it be bought <lb xml:id="l23"/>up &amp; sent abroad, then these persons doe make Vse of it, and if so, and <lb xml:id="l24"/>it should be carryed to other places, they will want it<del type="over">,</del><add place="over" indicator="no">.</add></p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par4">Iff it be not dugg out off <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Eearth, but is hid &amp; can't be found, how doe they <lb xml:id="l25"/>know it is their, for noe doubt but they digg all they can find.</p>
    
    <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par5">There is no more stock of Tin, in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Queens Cusstody now than there was <lb xml:id="l26"/>in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Farmers hands, 40 years since in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> time of <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Farm; I pro<choice><orig>u</orig><reg>v</reg></choice>e it thus: <lb xml:id="l27"/>3 of <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> greatest Monyed Men, in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Nation, Farmed <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tin, &amp; <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Merch<hi rend="superscript">ts</hi>:</abbr><expan>Merchants</expan></choice> <lb xml:id="l28"/>pewterers stood it out <choice><abbr>ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi>.</abbr><expan>against</expan></choice> them so long, untill their Creditt failed and <lb xml:id="l29"/>broak them, by <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi>:</abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> it plainly appears that there was as much stock then as <lb xml:id="l30"/>now, &amp; from thence, it appears, That Tin is Consumed for year to year, &amp; it <lb xml:id="l31"/>must be Inquired how it is Consumed, There can be no more Consumed <lb xml:id="l32"/>by Pewter than what is wasted in makeing, the Pewter is wrought <lb xml:id="l33"/>up againe, and is allwayes a stock upon hand.</p>
    
    <p xml:id="par6">It cannot be questioned but it is Naturall, for <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Generallity of Man<lb xml:id="l34"/>kind to desire to be as Rich as <unclear reason="hand"><add place="inline" indicator="no">t</add>h<del type="over">e</del><add place="over" indicator="no">e</add><add place="inline" indicator="no">y</add></unclear> can, and he that can gett most Tin <lb xml:id="l35"/>whilest he can have mony for it, must of Consequence have most <lb xml:id="l36"/>mony therefore it must be allowed thatthey can procure no more Tin <lb xml:id="l37"/>than they doe, if it were possible, they would digg all <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Tin in Cornwall <lb xml:id="l38"/>in One Year, but I know providence in Nothing, more vissible, than in <lb xml:id="l39"/>this, in hideing it from them, so as if they would spend all their Estates, <lb xml:id="l40"/>they cannot find it untill providence, doth as it were hand it out of <lb xml:id="l41"/>her store, by which meanes, there is Tin p<choice><orig><hi rend="superscript">r</hi></orig><reg>re</reg></choice>served &amp; handed out from <lb xml:id="l42"/>Age to Age; when one Mine is wrought out then Providence <lb xml:id="l43"/>discovers another <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi>:</abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> could never be found before &amp; is contrary to all <lb xml:id="l44"/>Experience to Argue, that if Tin were dearer, they would digge more for <lb xml:id="l45"/>they cannot, neither in Cornwall nor in <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> East Indies since my Time the <lb xml:id="l46"/><choice><abbr>Tinn<hi rend="superscript">rs</hi>.</abbr><expan>Tinners</expan></choice> were offered a Farm att 5<hi rend="superscript"><hi rend="overline">li</hi></hi>. the hundred, &amp; they refused it, &amp; att that time <lb xml:id="l47"/>there was no more Tin came from other places th<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="2"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">an</add> there doth now, but <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> Dutch <unclear reason="hand" cert="low">burn</unclear> <lb xml:id="l48"/>the<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="2"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">ir</add> spice to lessen <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> quantity &amp; make it dear, &amp; put lead <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">th</hi>:</abbr><expan>with</expan></choice> our Tin to Increase <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> quantity &amp; <lb xml:id="l49"/>make it cheap they are our Enemys in Trade, &amp; we should act Contrary to what they advise.</p>
    
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