Elizabeth Joars: The Information of Elizabeth Joars late of Dublin in Ireland Widow 23 August 1698
The Informacon of Elizabeth Joars late of Dublin in Ireland Widdow 23d Augt. 1698
She saith yt she hath known Mr Iohn Iennings abot 5 years ago in London but never saw him in Ireland till abot. 3 months ago when he was taken into custody in Dublin and that she first saw them togeather in Croydon at Mr Nortops house abot. 5 yeares ago and abot. 3 months after she saw mr Iennings at mr. Ivyes house in Lucabone str in London where he staid abot. an hour with mr. Ivie in ye Garden in the Arbr. and after yt. abot. another hour in the house And while the {illeg}|s|d Iennings staid in the arbor he pulled out a handfull of Guineas wch the Depont believes could be scarsefewer then an hundred and sd to mr Ivy that he had heard yt he (mr Ivie) had a great conveniency of putting away Gineas {sic} and yt. those were very good ones and would hold weight and touch and mr. Ivie thinking their acquaintance too small replyd. that he had not convenience of passing them away and added that this was Chandler, and mr. Iennings made answer no it was not it was an Injenious Gentleman and he yt joyned Stocks and there was no body in the house els but a Widdow dowm who watch{ed} at the door while they did the buisines for fear of a surprize + that they want a third person to joyn with them and he knew yt Mr. Ivie was able to advance 100l. and if he would joyn with ym. they should do better he further desired mr Ivie to take one of the Gineas {sic} for a pattern to shew to any friend but mr. Ivie refused to medle. Afterwards when he came into the house he pulled out againe a handfull of Gineas {sic} to shew the Depont. + Mr. Ivie + proposed to the Depont. yt she should go with him (Iennings) into the Countrey and put them off as they ridd abot. and moved mr. Ivie to perswade her to it but the Depont. refused saying yt she was a very ill Horsewoman she saith also yt he {sic} had seen Mr. Iennings 4 or 5 times before this time but after this time she saw him no more till about 3 months ago She saith also that Iennings said that he had passed a great many of them away and that that {sic} they were so good that they never were suspected and to the Depont. they looked to be \very/ fine that she should readily have taken them without suspecting them
She saith also yt. she hath for these 5 or 6 yeares heard a very ill report of Edward Brady for robbing and clipping and putting off False money but she knoweth nothing of him but by hearsay she saith further that mr. Iohn Gibbons one of the yeoman posted at Whitehall abot. 5 or 6 years ago came severall times to mr. Ivie's house and coming into mr. Ivy's Closset askt him for some money saying (in the Deponent's hearing) that he had been amongst his Penconers and could get none and wn. mr. Ivie said that he had none the said Gibbons hath put his hand where some money lay (as it did sometimes open in a bagg upon the Table) Mr. Ivy was fain to give him some part of wt. was there. she saith also that the said Gibbons hath often spoken in the Deponent's hearing concerning his Penconers and practises abot. Clippers and Coyners and ꝑticularly how meeting a woman in the street whom he suspected to have clipt money abot. her he seized her with an hundred pound bagg of clipt money upon her and had her before mr. Overton and another Iustice of the peace who sealed up the bagg and delivered it to him ye said Gibbons to keep and that afterwards for a gratuity he contrived the following way to bring the woman off vizt. he opened the bottom of the bagg took out some of the clipt money put in some good mony instead of it sealed it up again and dirtyd the bottom that the new sowing might not be perceived and wn the Bagg was opened at her tryall the broad money being mixed with the narrow bought her off with creddit
The Depont. saith also that abot. 5 years ago she hath heard the sd Gibbons say that he had sent his mistress to Market and given her some Gineas {sic} but what markets she would make he Did not know and wn. he was askt if he did them himselfe he answered no Iack Hickes and Cogswell did them for him and he gave them so much in the pound for doing them but how much the Deponent rembers not and that at another time the said Gibbons told her that he had been with an acquaintance of his and found them at work and clapt his hand in and took a handfull of rough Money but did not know much he had of it and being askt wt. he would do with it replyed he had not lived to these yeares but he could tell wt. to do wth it she saith also yt she hath seen Iohn Hickes at his house in Chelsea abot. 4 or 5 yeares ago togeather with his daughter Mary and a man called Iones clip the Current Coyn of this Kingdom, and yt she hath also seen the wife of Iohn Hickes file the money wch. they had clipt
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